Muslims demand Sharia student loans because paying interest goes against Islamic law

Muslims demand Sharia student loans because paying interest goes against Islamic law

Muslim groups are calling for a separate student loan system because the interest due to be charged will conflict with rules of Sharia law.

The changes to tuition fees, which come into force next year, will see students charged higher rates of interest on the loans they take out to pay for university.

Until now they have paid the market rate of inflation but the reforms mean students who go on to earn more than £21,000 will have to pay interest of up to 3 per cent.

But in some interpretations of Sharia law, which is Islam’s legal system and governs every aspect of Muslim life, loans are forbidden.

The National Union of Students has said it could be two years before an alternative system is worked out, leaving some Muslims fearing they cannot go on to further education.

The Federation of Student Islamic Societies told The Independent that the rate increase was a ‘pressing issue’.

A spokesman said: ‘Because the rate of interest is above the rate of inflation, it is quite blatant usury.’

Usury means the practice of lending money and charging the borrower interest, possibly at a very high rate.

Mohammed Ahmed-Sheikh, 17, says the changes will discourage him from applying to university next year.

‘The fees are the reason I’m having doubts. I’m Muslim and loans are against my religion,’ he told The Independent.

Ahmad Mitoubsi, 21, who graduated this year, added: ‘We’ve just had to adapt to the British system or else I couldn’t have gone to uni.’

The Department of Business, Innovation and Skills says discussions are ongoing with student groups about a solution.

But it is thought an alternative, such as already happens with mortgages in which education could be ‘rented’ instead, may not be agreed until the 2013/14 academic year.

Sharia law is Islam’s legal system. It was derived from the Koran, as the word of God, the example of the life of the prophet Muhammad and fatwas – the rulings of Islamic scholars.

It is different to the legal traditions of the Western world because it governs – or informs – everything about how a Muslim lives.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2028782/Muslims-demand-Sharia-student-loans-paying-goes-Islamic-law.html

Turkish Girl Buried Alive For Talking To Boys

Turkish Girl Buried Alive For Talking To Boys

The body of a 16-year-old girl who police say was buried alive by relatives in an “honor” killing carried out as punishment for talking to boys has been discovered in Kahta, Turkey.

Turkish police discovered the body after acting on an anonymous tip. The tipster told police that the girl was killed after a family council meeting, and had been buried under a chicken pen. Police say that the girl had complained two months earlier that her grandfather beat her for talking to boys.

The girl, identified by police only by her initials M.M., was said to have a large amount of soil in her stomach and lungs, indicating she had been buried alive.

“The autopsy result is blood-curdling. According to our findings, the girl – who had no bruises on her body and no sign of narcotics or poison in her blood – was alive and fully conscious when she was buried,” one anonymous expert said.

The girl had been reported as missing by her family. Police have arrested her father, mother and grandfather. Her mother has been released but her father and grandfather are awaiting trial.

The case is expected to bring further attention to the issue of “honor” killings in Turkey. Official figures indicate that more than 200 “honor” killings take place each year – almost half of all murders in Turkey.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/05/turkish-girl-buried-alive_n_450019.html

EDL (English Defence League) statement

(EDL) English Defence League facebook page posted this today (16th January 2014) I totally agree:

The Management Group, made up of all your Regional Organisers, has agreed that this article should be made to clarify a few uncertainties that are being aired by the supporters of the EDL. 

The Group does not want to have or feel the need to have unity with any of the splinter groups for the following reasons:-

▪ They do not follow the EDL Mission Statement

▪ Some or all of these splinter groups are openly White Pride and racist and the EDL ethos is and always will be ‘Black and White Unite’

▪ Some or all of these splinter groups are against our Jewish and LGBT community and again this goes against our Mission Statement and ethos

▪ They demonstrate against issues which are not encompassed in the current EDL Mission Statement. However we recognize the need to update & progress, which may or may not lead to changes in the Mission statement to reflect the Nations Immigration status changes and is soon to be under review.

Whilst the EDL management are happy to stand with any like minded patriots that do not discriminate against creed/colour we will not stand with groups that do discriminate and are racist such as the Britain First /SEA/NWI/NEI/EVF/BNP/NF/C18 & White Pride or such like minded openly discriminating against any creed, race, colour other than white.

If any EDL supporter wishes to attend any of these other groups demos then all that we request is that you do not wear EDL colour’s or state you are in attendance as an EDL supporter. If you wish to have unity with these groups then you have the option to leave the EDL as a supporter and join one or all of these groups. The splinter groups have minimal numbers and need unity with the EDL to make their numbers up not the other way. If you choose do so then we wish you good luck.

We are also hearing feedback that some supporters are unaware of the reasons why some Leaders of these other groups are no longer welcome as EDL so we have set out a brief summing up as to why. We will refrain from openly naming the people so as to prevent the obvious embarrassment of what we are revealing: –

Individual No 1

This person was a Ro appointed by Tommy for an area in the South of Britain. Complaints (several) were made to Tommy/Kev as to his bullying/harassing/intimidating manner to other supporters if they did not tow the line that he wanted them to adhere. Individual No 1 also threatened several supporters with violence (including visiting people’s homes to quote “slice them” or to make arrangement’s to meet in secluded park areas to ‘discuss’ on more than one occasion).

Tommy/Kev warned Individual No 1 of his erratic manner several times and even had a face-to-face meeting with him over it and gave him a final warning to conduct himself in a professional manner or he would be removed as an RO. After this meeting Tommy/Kev were made aware that Individual No 1 had formed the SEA 8 months earlier and also was selling clothing to supporters whilst using a copy written EDL logo without any form of recompense to the EDL. However he continued with the same behaviour that he had been warned about and more and more complaints were being received and Kev eventually contacted him up and told him that he could no longer be an RO but was welcome to remain in the EDL as a foot soldier. This was refused and he started to openly promote his SEA group which he had formed several months earlier, which would not, as it turned out follow the EDL Mission Statement and already had set in motion links with Paul Golding and Ed Dowson & the BNP whilst being in the responsible role of an RO. The term double player surely should apply?

Several people heard the conversation that Kev had with Individual No 1 as Kev had put this on loudspeaker and had an open group conversation on Skype running. A recording of this conversation exists in our archives.

EVF

This was formed by John Sheridan, who was previously a lead person in the EDL, but left due to personal reasons. He later left the EVF and returned to the EDL for a short time. Mr. Sheridan recently left after Tommy made his resignation public. The EVF views do not follow our Mission Statement.

Individual No 2

Individual No 2 got involved with in the Mace/Morley incident where a great number of people were calling for Mace to be removed from the EDL. Individual No 2 contacted Tommy/Kev and issued them with an ultimatum that Mace be removed or he would leave the EDL and gave them a couple of days to comply with this ultimatum. Tommy/Kev refused to give in to this ultimatum and set a precedent and thanked Individual No 2 for his work. At a later date Tommy/Kev tried to mediate with Individual No 2 via an RO to meet up and discuss things but this was refused unless further ultimatums were agreed to. The gentleman wanted to be the ‘Enforcer’ and have his own team who would throw out anyone in the EDL he deemed should be removed and was answerable to no one and issued the name of several people he wanted removed before even being prepared to discuss things. As several egos were already rearing their heads and the individual showed himself to be another ego Tommy/Kev refused to cede to these ultimatums and ended discussions with this person. He also got himself involved in the row between EDL supporters that had legal documents relating to Charlene Downes case, which the EDL had already distanced from. We understand that Individual No 2 has documents of an extremely sensitive nature kept in his personal safe, Social Services reports amongst others pertaining to the Charlene Downes Murder case and family history which is personal to the family and are copies of Social Services reports.

It was Individual No 2 choice to stop supporting the EDL and Tommy/Kev did attempt to negotiate with him.

Britain First – Paul Golding

The following link explains it all

http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/beware-false-patriots/

In a recent statement by Paul Golding he had the following to say regarding EDL supporters, which has upset a great many as he seems to be tarring everyone with the same brush

“Let it be known, however, that we have no intention of repeating the mistakes made by previous groups. Drunkards, those who insist on wearing masks, racists and/or liberals will not be tolerated in Britain First Defence. We want serious, committed, sober, focused, sensible, patriotic and dedicated activists, the very best that Britain has to offer, and the new units that have been established recently bear all these qualities and more.”

Tommy was approached by these two gentlemen asking to take over our very large database to raise money on the EDL’s behalf, whilst taking a cut for themselves. Their offer was refused, as it was clear that they were just after a moneymaking opportunity & it didn’t make for a good business plan. Just remember these two clowns nearly bought down the BNP with their actions in relation to financial activities. And their comments above about the dedicated and loyal EDL supporters clearly show the value they place in the EDL foot soldiers. Their further agenda to make a paramilitary organisation based on terrorist groups in Northern Ireland is troubling & we hope the security services are already aware of the aims.

John Shaw aka Snowy

The link explains in Tommy’s words what it is all about. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCNKJdfLNA4

Shane Calvert aka Diddyboy

SC left the EDL and started the NWI (North West Infidels), which go by the fourteen words and have not been welcome at EDL events since he left along with other members of the NWI because of their racist views. He currently is serving a prison sentence.

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https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2013/03/507472.html

http://liveraf.wordpress.com/2012/05/27/infidels-of-britain-a-manifesto/

Nick Griffin (BNP)

Griffin and the BNP are finished as a political force due to Griffins recent bankruptcy. He has also recently ‘cuddled up” to Greece’s Golden Dawn which openly has Nazis supporting ideology. Griffin clings to every opportunity to gain support by piggy backing other organisations events. True Colours springs to mind. 

http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/the-edl-and-bnp-do-not-stand-together/

MORE ISLAMIC LIES & MYTH

ISLAM = SUBMISSION TOTALY IN ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE , DO NOT DOUBT and NO QUESTIONS ASKED The bove is the only true meaning of Islam. Do not let appologists to deceive you.

  “The Quran is a wonderful masterpiece” – Fact – The chapters of the Quran are not arranged in importance, continuity, biography, chronology, significance or sequence of …any sort, but are arranged by length – the longest chapter first and the last chapter with just 6 lines. Verses are disorderly arranged and jumbled up in unrelated subjects/topics. Christians will be horrified to know that there is no prophecy, no chronology, no geography, no biography of anybody (not even Muhammad), no ministry, no history, no proverbs, no parables, no miracles, no psalms, etc, generally, just do’s and don’t, like an instruction manual of a vacuum cleaner; and with punitive punishments, retaliations and rewards specified.
And full of contradictions. The most confused book ever written.

“The Quran has everything” – the Quran has nothing worthwhile for any intelligent person, except being a recepie for the terrorists.

“Islam is harmonious” – Another funny and cheap lie. There are more than thousand of sects in Islam all based on the same book , the Quran , due to that books confusion in all subjects. ( except killing parts of course) . Most of the sects of Islam have been killing each other since 1300 years ago. Since 911 , More than 3,000,000 innocent people ( including children and women ) have been killed by muslims . More than 80% of the victims were muslims from different sects. ( Wahhabis and Salafis are mostly doing the killings of all other sects.) . Even now , every 29 minutes one innocent is being killed by them. ( while we were arranging this article , 2 innocent have been killed ) . What a harmony.

“Islam is charitable” – If each Muslim contributed just 1 dollar, the 1 billion dollars collected, could have built 200,000 wooden houses for 1 million homeless Acehnese Muslims in Indonesia, who are suffering in tents today, since the tsunami of dec.2004. In Islam rich people get richer and poor people must pay for it.

“Islam means unity” – Then why are there more than 200 Islamic Sects ‘blowing’ the heads off each other? If Muslims cannot agree among them, where is Islamic unity? Islam does not mean unity , it does not mean peace either.

ISLAM = SUBMISSION TOTALY IN ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE , DO NOT DOUBT and NO QUESTIONS ASKED

 “Islam is fair”
The question to this myth is : To whom ?
Islam permits slavery . Is that fair treating of people ?
Islam permits raping war prisoners . Is that fair ?
As you know and ( will see  again in this article ) , women are treated like animals . Is that fair ?
Islam calls non-muslims najis , worst of creature , dogs and pigs an…d etc . Is taht fair ?

“ Quran is a clear book and islam is the final message”
Fact : There are thousands of sects in islam and the follower of each sect believe that they are the only sect who have understood the quran and islam correctly and all others are heretics. Each sect believes that THEIR version of islam is ” the final message”.
The horrible ( islamic ) part of each sect`s teaching is that they consider all other sects as heretics and must be dealed with like infidels ( non-muslims) which means : kill them and nothing shorter than that.
Some sects call other islamic sect polytheists ( sunni calls chia polytheists ) . Vahhabis believe that killing 3 shiah secures your place in the islamic brodel , ( muslim can read it : islamic heaven).
Which one of those sects are correct?
Could a clear book lead to thousands of sects allwoing each sect to kill the followers of the other sects ?
Is there a more confused book than quran ever written in the human history ?

“Women are equally treated in Islam” –
Fact  : Lets see what Quran says about this :
Quran 2:223 “Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will,”
2:228 “Women are equal in Kindness {only}, and men are a degree over women”
2:282 “one man witness equals two women witnesses.”
4:3 “marry up to four women, if you can do justice” {justice in sex? When Periods?}
4:4 “give women a dowry” {if equal why dowry?} 4:34 “Men are in charge of women.” Also in 4:34 “Men must scourge {whip or lash} their disobedient wives {like animals} and desert them to separate beds” {men to decide, when enough is enough as it is not specified}.
65:4 permits marriage to prepubescent girls . There is absolutely no lowest age limit whatsoever. If any body tells you otherwise , he is lying. Beside that being a crime , it does not require the infant girls consent.

The long list of Islamic discrimination and gender inequality goes on and on.

Why is there no female Islamic clergy  ?
Why is it in Islam, only men can be Imam, Ustaz, Ullama, Mufti, Kadi, etc?

“Non-Muslims pray to statues/idols”
Fact:Muslims always condemn non-Muslims for praying to statues/idols – But it is obligatory for all Muslims to pray to the stone structure (Kaaba), the black stone and the 360 idols in the Kaaba. Muslims also pray to graves, Mausoleums, shrines {like the Dome in Jerusalem} etc. Muslim hypocrites have no limit to their ‘foul mouth’ for others.

“Adam was a Muslim”
Fact: If this is true then from 100% Muslim world, down to 17% Muslim population is a very bad record, right? Why did Islam drop so drastically? How did Adam become a Muslim without the Quran/Hadiths/Kaaba/Sunna/black stone/Islam/Muhammad, no Allah {even the Hindu Allah was not in existence during Adam’s time}. Adam/Eve could not read or write – so who taught them about Islam/Allah, how and when to pray and face where? Who circumcised Adam? Absurd, isn’t it?

“Jerusalem is a Holy city to Islam”
Fact: The name ‘Jerusalem’ is not even mentioned anywhere in the Quran. The word ‘Palestinian’ comes from the race, Philistines who are originally from the Island of Crete. What is there today, are Arabs who came from neighbouring countries. There is no distinct Palestinian race among the Arabs today, is there? They are Arabs plain and simple.

“Islam is not terrorism, it is a very sociable and a open religion”
Fact: – Sura 8.12 says, “I will throw fear (terrorize) on the unbelievers. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.” {Here, Allah himself admits, he is a terrorist who terrorizes non-Muslims. So how can Muslims say Islam is not terrorism and contradict Allah?} Why does Allah say in the Quran 3:28 & 9:23 Muslims not to be friends of non-Believers of Islam, even if he is a brother or father? Sociable? And 25:52 asks Muslims not to obey non-Muslims. So, non-Muslims cannot employ Muslims, can they?

“The Quran is scientific”
Fact: Allah says the earth is as flat as a carpet {not a sphere} and the sun revolves around the earth and here is the best part – the sun sets everyday on planet earth in a murky water. More importantly , not a single scientific discovery , invention or even a theory has ever been based on the QUran and it will never be either. Muslims always wait for a scientif fact to be discovered by infidels , then they change meaning of a verse to suit their purpose .
I think soon they will find the Higgs boson in the Quran too . They are looking for the right verse to lie about and change t`s true meaning so that it can explain the Higgs Boson. All scientific claims of quran are , without exception , of this kind .

“Muslims who terrorise do not know the true Islam” –
The Truth :Does that mean that it is okay for non-Muslims who do not know their true religion can murder Muslims? All terrorists are true Muslims because they follow what Allah said in the Quran, which is to murder non-Muslims.

Islamic Lies & Myths – “Quran is original and has never been changed”

The truth :The Quran itself admits to cancellations and changes in Quran 2:106, 16:101, 22:52. 22:52 says Satan proposed some Quranic Sura. The Quran was fabricated hundreds of years after Muhammad. None of the Authors (Hadiths) of Muhammad ever saw/met him. Sahih Bukhari died in 870 A.D. (Bukhari vol.6:385) 238 years after Muhammad was poisoned to death. In contrast, the authors/Apostles of Jesus ate, drank, slept, walked, talked, prayed, preached, and lived with him.

Islamic Lies & Myths – “Adam, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, , Moses and even jesus were Muslims and Islamic prophets”

The truth: But the Quran says in 22:52 “Never did we send a messenger or a prophet before you (Muhammad)” So who is lying – Allah or the Quran or both?
This claim is so funny that it does`t even need to be debunked . But it is more fun to ask them a few simple questions which they can not answer. It may help them to wake up:

1- If that is the case , why didn`t any of them ever mentioned anything about Islam ? Just because they believed in the God , does not mean that they were muslims .
2- Isn`t it more rational to call muhammad Jewish or Christian since he lived thousand of years after Moses , or 600 years after Jesus ?

Haters and Ignoramuses

  “You are a hater because you’re ignorant.” How many times have you heard that? If only you could inform yourself, you would love whatever it is that you hate.
  Hate? – Let’s define it. 20 years ago, when you disagreed with someone, you just had a different opinion. Today, if you disagree, with the same people, about the same thing, it’s hate and you are a hater.
  Who are… those people, so sensitive, that they interpret the lack of fondness toward them, or a simple indifference, as hatred? Why, it is the Left. The very group of people, with fragile egos, who cannot handle dissent, while at the same time they are preaching moral relativism, tolerance and diversity.
  So let me tell you something about knowledge and ignorance. The first one can be a blessing, but being knowledgeable means being responsible. The other could be a bliss, for some people, as it may become a refuge and an alibi. None of them, however, implies or provokes one type of feelings only: knowledge does not result in all-transcending love, and ignorance in dark, despicable hate.
  Take mosquitoes: I really dislike them. Their females prey on us, poor humans (and other miserable mammals), by drinking our blood, and as thank-you for being their food they ‘reward’ us with all sorts of problems: malaria, dengue fever, yellow fever and other attractions. The more I study mosquitoes, the less I like them. As a dengue fever survivor I will never, ever like mosquitoes, no matter what. I won’t think that they are cute or misunderstood. I won’t collect money to raise awareness about unfairness against mosquitoes. Never.
  Or take typhoons, also called tropical cyclones, or hurricanes: strong circular winds that are created above the oceans, and that tend to travel towards land, accompanied by torrential rains, causing, on their path, flooding, death and total destruction. I am a typhoon survivor as well. And I lived through several; but nobody will ever convince me to love them, ever.
  The closer you get to a typhoon the more you know about it, and the less fond of it you become. The longer you stay in a mosquito-infested place, the less you appreciate the experience; and if you tried any of the diseases they may infect you with, making your knowledge about them even broader, you would hate them outright.
  Or try the ancient cult of Aztecs. Once a year they would choose a person (a prisoner of war, a war that was started in order to take prisoners that would be sacrificed to the gods) that for next 12 months would be treated like a king or even a living god: nothing is too good for the chosen one – he eats delicious food and wears beautiful clothes; yet by the end of that 12-month period he would be sacrificed to the gods. You can find out more details about how his thoracic cage would be cut open with a stone knife, and how his still beating heart was extracted and shown to the public before being eaten … oh no, that is a different story. So yes, you can find out all the details, how the human sacrifices used to be done in pre-Columbian America; but I guarantee you, there’s no amount of knowledge that you might find out about that cult that will make you admire it, like it or dream of becoming an adherent, while regretting that Aztecs are all extinct now. No, unless you are mentally disturbed, you cannot get fond of those beliefs and practices.
  Recently I met a neighbor of mine, while walking my dogs. We used to walk together quite often, each with her dogs, until I refused to show enough enthusiasm (by her progressive standards) towards the philosophy of relativism and the US President. We used to comment on current events. At first she was interested in my opinions about America, and – since she is a well-traveled person herself – she was sharing her views about Europe, where she was going at least twice a year.   This time she went to London, she told me. Really? I said. Was it safe? Was anyone speaking English? (I know, I couldn’t stop myself from being sarcastic.) Yes and yes, she replied, the one dangerous thing is haters and I hate haters! And then she left, without giving me another glance, and without waiting for my answer. I guess I was the hater she disliked. Following the leftist logic, to which she subscribes, if she only knew me better, if she only knew what I am standing for at all she would have to love me and my opinions; because only ignorance causes hatred, right?
  She has a young daughter who will be fair game to mosquitoes, typhoons and heart-cut-outers (and I don’t mean Aztecs).
  Knowledge might protect her against the first two, but she will be vulnerable like a baby in a fog against the third one, because she doesn’t know about the danger. Her mother made sure she doesn’t.

islamic science

islam and science funny

 Qur’an 15:26 – man is created from CLAY.
Qur’an 7:189 – humans created from a single being.
Qur’an 2:117 – human creation happened in an instant.
Qur’an 18:86 – sun sets in murky water
Qur’an 91:1-2-1 – moon and sun orbit the earth
Qur’an 35:41 – Earth does not move
Qur’an 40:64 – The Earth does not move
Qur’an 2:258 – sun moves the earth is still

stupid muslim science

Qur’an 45:13 – everything in universe orbits earth
Qur’an 81:2 – stars are small enough to fall on us
Qur’an 67:5, Qur’an 37:10 – shooting stars are missiles for devils.
Qur’an 65:12 – says there are 7 planets. Actually number is 8 planets +5 dwarf planets leaving the grand total at 13.
Qur’an 71:15-16 – moon is farther away than the stars
Qur’an 76:13 – cold air at night is caused by the moon
Qur’an 71:16 – moon emits light

scienceofthequran

Qur’an 54:1 – moon was split in two
Qur’an 7:54 – sun is not a star
Qur’an 21:32 – The sky is concrete and impenetrable
Qur’an 36:40 – Allah is ignorant of the north and south poles
Qur’an 86:6-7 – Sperm comes from between the spine/backbone and ribs
Qur’an 31:34 – ONLY Allah knows the gender of an unborn infant
Qur’an 25:45 – female participation (ovum) completely omitted
Qur’an 23:14 – Bones are formed before flesh (the first muscles are actually formed BEFORE the bones.
Qur’an 41:12 – Earth has 7 atmospheres
Qur’an 2:149 – earth is level
Qur’an 88:20 – earth is flat
Qur’an 16:15 – mountains prevent earthquakes
Qur’an 16:15 – Allah created the mountains by casting them down on the earth
Qur’an 16:45, Qur’an 29:37 – Earth quakes are for non-muslims only.
Qur’an 17:68 – hurricanes and blizzards are punishment for non-muslims only.
Qur’an 43:11 – Allah didnt know about the water cycle
Qur’an 5:116 – Christians worship Mary(even though she was NEVER worshiped as part of the trinity).
Qur’an 18:11 – humans can sleep for 300 years
Qur’an 2:187 – Allah was not aware of eskimos
Qur’an 6:38 – ALL animals live in communities(never mind animals like the Jaguar, right?)

islamic science

Qur’an 55:33 – SPACE FLIGHT IS IMPOSSIBLE